I have a Grand Seiko night birch, which is a high beat with their dual impulse escapement. I had to bring it in for service under warranty in 2023 because it was running 20 seconds fast per day. Seiko fixed it but now it’s creeping up again and running more than 10 seconds fast per day. (It’s supposed to be -3 to +5). Also, the manual winding now requires hundreds of winds. It’s under warranty still so I brought it back to the local AD to be sent to Seiko (and probably to Japan for this movement).

I have other Grand Seikos which have been very reliable (both high beat and spring drive).

I am curious if others have had issues with GS watches - either with the original watch or their service?

(The watch is beautiful)

So talking to an AD for white dial 70s Chrono and they're offering 9k for my IWC Pilots Chrono and Blue Dial Santos du Mont 4k and 5k respectivel. This would bring my out of pocket to 9k for the GO. Would you guys do it? Loosing a little on the IWC and about breaking about even for the Cartier.

The GO is probably one of the last few available at an AD since its a special ed.

I'm an avowed second generation Overseas guy (own two) but my friend just picked up a new ultra thin perpetual and JFC this thing is sexual.

Not worth the 130k Vacheron is asking but these dive down into the 80s the second you wear it out of the store.

Hey guys

I already bought it

Just so you know

But I don’t mind getting beat up

Or praise if it’s appropriate

Anyhow, I do like Panerai but not always

Recently bought one so I am thinking about something else, however

The dealer in Palm Beach on North Avenue cool Spot. I’m friendly with the woman there.

Jessica

She’s great FYI

She obviously wants to sell watches, but she sent me a text that somebody passed away so the Panerai that he left in description was available?!

$8800

Text tip delivery Florida send it to me in Rhode Island no tax

Throwing in a deployant clasp

And some bands

Homage to the 1993 version only made 1500 total not making it again since 1993 in 1993. They only made 200.

500 made only in the US

Online selling for more

Because you can’t get it

I’m getting mine with the original clasp band, obviously

And a black leather croc strap with the same material deploy

I’m gonna rock it

Manual wind in house movement no date 1993 Italian military watch in-house movement Swiss made

Thoughts

And thank you

andrea !?



Hi,

Black PVD / DLC stainless steel watches - cases and or bracelets - GIMMICK or VALUABLE ???

Does the coating hold up to daily use?

Any truth to the hearsay that Rolex will not service a watch with a Black PVD/DLC coating?

Black cases with non-metal straps seem more common...

Anything else to consider?

Any other watch suggestions?

For example:

Rolex Milgauss Black PVD/DLC Stainless Steel Watch 116400GV

Cartier Santos Carbon Black WSSA0039

Tag Heuer Monaco CAW2190.FC6437

Thanks for your assistance,

jwyds44

Im torn between these two watches at nearly the same price (14500 vs 17500). I'm not into investment and do appreciate both. Also I understand Bovets are rarer but if one is definitely not worth it then I'd rather go for the other. Any advise? Thank you.

Good evening.

Anyone have hands-on experience with the Breitling Top TIme B01? The corvette sting ray model (red dial) has caught my eye, however, I'm torn between the leather strap & bracelet.

Anyone own one?

Thanks.

Scott

I am looking at selling some watches from my collection that I don’t wear (and don’t love) to make room for some new ones. Top of the list is an AP Code chronograph that I bought for access to a Royal Oak. What are the best ways to sell a watch, should I do it privately on Chronos, one of the smaller sites like Bevel or Grailzee or should I sell to a large dealer (like 1916) as I am willing to trade for a watch I like better?

I have an oris Propilot x (the skeletonized one) that i purchased about 4-5 years ago. (maybe 18 mos after they came out). I bought it pre-owned off of ebay and this was before they had the verification process they do now. I got a good deal but not a crazy good deal.. Like similar to what the lowest prices were for the same on Chrono 24.

So around a year and a half ago now it stopped working. some problem with the keyless works and you cant set it. Its not that big of a problem, i mean the watch runs otherwise, but it needs a part. I took it to several watchmakers and they said they cant get the parts, that only Oris has the parts and i guess they dont make it possible for watchmakers to order.

SO i sent it to the oris US service center (which I think is just a watchmaker, not really part of oris) and they said they cant work on the watch because its on the stolen watches list. Yikes. I had no idea, obviously.

Miraculously i managed to get ahold of the original seller who is no longer selling on ebay He was apologetic, claimed he had bought it from someone else and had no idea it was stolen. But basically he wasnt willing to do much to help nor was ebay since the transaction had occurred years earlier. I had basically no leverage.

The US service center offered to send the watch to oris but i was fearful of what would happen if they did that so i told them to send it back to me, which they did.

But now I have this watch, doesnt work, and i dont know what I can do to get it repaired.

Any ideas/suggestions as to how to proceed?

thx!

I just want to express I’m loving this watch community we have got. I love seeing people ask questions I did not consider. I may not have all the insight but this is a good learning experience for me and I hope for others too. :)

happy holidays

Sway

Now that we're somewhat in recession territory for many new watches at the retail level (excluding Rolex, of course), I'm curious about the discount levels that can be found from multi-brand boutiques. If we don't count highly desirable models from large brands, what kind of discount off MSRP can be achieved with a little discussion? A brand like Moser, or Armin Strom, makes high quality, cool watches that are priced pretty steeply at retail compared to their devaluation on the secondary market. Even a brand like Omega -- still able to get discounts on anything but the most popular limited releases? Curious to hear everyone's thoughts, including Fed's.

Fed

I am sure you have what I imagine you call "the watch charts discussion" like 5 x/d. I imagine someone says "But watch charts says it is 10K" and you say "well, go buy it from watch charts then" or something like that.

Question: where do you land on watch charts data?

FWIW: I find it directionally accurate for heavily traded pieces meaning if things are trending up or down you get a sense of that. For really heavily traded pieces (an average sub maybe) you can get pretty close on price. On the other hand, it is oftentimes nonsensical for anything rare, old, not heavily traded, etc. My gripes are that they never account for service history anywhere (e.g. service is given zero value) which skews the entire market for what peple should be caring about.

I have other thoughts about how easy it would be to game the numbers on something not heavily traded (I am positive I can throw up some random Reddit posts and ebay listings that nobody would buy but it would get incorporated into the data), why the numbers are extra silly because they include random forum posts that you will never have access to in the future, only really focus on asking price and on and on. I imagine they have some algorithm built in to account for this stuff but without knowing the math I am unable to replicate their data for anything that isnt a hype piece or something like a modern sub.

Interested in your thoughts about the value of WC, how you manage watch charts number, and how you would advise collectors to use the information.

Anything better method out there for a starting point?

Been eyeing a near mint blue dial Mark XX. It’s a full set and listed for $4800 but negotiable from a private seller. Want to be fair also want a good deal. What price should I shoot for?

Hello:

Where can I find my billing information? When I go to my profile I only see may name and place to update a photo.

Is anyone else having a problem contacting Delray Watch and or the Collective?

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Hi Guys,

Quick question. What brands are you looking for. When I do my buying I am always curious what brands specifically my customers are looking for. Don't tell me specific watches, as that can be quite hard for me to remember and sift through, but what brands in general (excluding Rolex) would you guys like to see in the marketplace?

Best,

Fed

I’m wondering if anyone has come across this limited edition Czapek. The watch was made for the 100 anniversary of Polish independence. There are only 15 made of the Warszawianka series. While the Tribute to Poland has only 8. Definitely a grail piece for me.

Any thoughts on good secondary market sources for the new model Breguet Type XX's. Their value tanks so hard on the secondary market that I personally find it impossible to justify purchasing one from an AD, but other than handful with delusional asks on chrono24, they don't seem to come up very often. I imagine that's probably just going to be the game...it's not a high volume piece so you have to be ready to pounce when an odd one comes up at a good price. But sometimes dealers play in a niche, and though I might check to see if anyone in the group knows a dealer(s) that source(s) a lot of Breguet.