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I have a relationship with a Rolex AD in town. Over the years, I have been fortunate to get a lot of valuable stainless steel models at retail (e.g., Batgirl, Kermit, Black Daytona, Pepsi, multiple DJs). However, now I’m ready to get into other watches and want to sell some of my Rolexes. Should I be worried about the AD finding out that I sold the watch? They have mentioned to me multiple times that they always find out when a customer sells a watch.

Hi All,

Looking at a Breguet 5817. The movement usually has gold paint/lacquer (or whatever the correct word is) inlayed into the engraved information (Breguet name, caliber name, etc...) but it looks like it's worn out. Otherwise the movement looks good to me. I was wondering what this signifies? AI essentially said someone may have used solvents and/or a nasty brush to clean the movement. But I was hoping to get some thoughts.

I’m looking at purchasing this watch through an auction house and would love to get your opinion on value.

What do you think would be a great buy price or realistic wholesale number for this reference?

From my research, the original retail price was around $60,000, and current secondary-market listings seem to range from approximately $38,000 on the low end to over $50,000 for full-set examples.

This particular watch includes the original Certificate of Origin but does not come with the original box.

To be completely honest, I’m looking at this as a potential value opportunity. I think it’s a very overlooked model in the current market, and there may be a chance to buy it well below market value. My thought process is to acquire it at the right price, enjoy it for a period of time, then send it to Patek Philippe for a complete factory service and obtain an Extract from the Archives. After that, I could either sell it privately for a profit or wholesale it to a dealer if the numbers make sense.

I’m curious to hear what others think the true wholesale value is today and what price point would make this an attractive buy.

Patek Philippe 5147G

• Reference Number: 5147G-001
• Year 2012
• Case Size: 39MM
• Complication Annual Calender Moon Face
• 18K White Gold
• Factory Diamond Gem Set / 62 diamonds
• Navy Blue Lacquered dial with white gold applied hour markers and numerals

As the FTW Collective is a “no judgment zone” for the kind of wasteful debauchery over wrist trinkets we all love, let’s hear those stories about the most expensive or otherwise zany/egregious/disgusting watch purchase you’ve made while under the influence.

I’ll start…I once paid retail for a Breguet Classique Calendar at the Breguet Boutique in Las Vegas.

Ok so - I have my reasons. Might be time to go a little douche as I think you said in one of the videos ;-)

Any idea what the correct price would be for a Hublot Big Bang Integrated Time Only Sky Blue Ceramic Skeleton Dial 456.EX.5120.EX?

There is a pretty wide range. I have no idea how to price a Hublot. Does anyone normally want these things? Are they hard to move or is there a Hublot underground that wants them? Seems like at least a few of these are sitting for hundreds of days unsold.

I cant imagine there are many more dopes like me out there who want a Don Johnson, light blue, ceramic, open work for zero reason only to reveal a seiko level finishing on the top of the movement, but here we are.

Other than run the other way which is the correct answer, advice on price for this model or shopping for Hublot in general?

If we know these are sitting for months and months and the advertised ask is below 15 is the correct price more like 13-13.5 for something it seems nobody wants? I am hoping you guys say lower but......

https://www.essential-watches.com/watch/Hublot-456EX5120EX-Big-Bang-Integrated-40mm-in-Sky-Blue-Ceramic-on-Sky-Blue-Ceramic-Bracelet-Strap-with-Skeleton-Dial/106655

https://wpbwatchco.com/product/hublot-big-bang-integrated-time-only-sky-blue-ceramic-skeleton-dial-456-ex-5120-ex/